Dalai Lama & Desmond Tutu on Finding Joy Amidst Adversity

With the nation reeling from the ever present coronavrius and the protests surrounding the death of George Floyd how does one find joy amidst the turmoil? In the "Book of Joy" author and editor Douglas Abrams describes the conversation between two men who know adversity well the Dalai Lama who has been exiled from his native Tibel and Archbishop Desmond Tutu who fought apartheid in South Africa. Delmarva Public Radio's Don Rush talked with Abrams about what he learned from those conversations.